​What's the process to get started?
It's simple. We want to make it convenient and hassle-free for everyone.
As mentioned on the Services page, we do not accept any deposits, no funds will be sent to us.

We are not financial advisors nor are we an investment company that pools money for the purpose of investing.
You will have to open an account with a reputable and regulated brokerage firm - The account will be in your name, and therefore you would have the peace of mind in knowing that you are the sole person responsible for funding your account and withdrawing funds (As per AML regulations, brokerage firms as such only send funds to a bank account holder whose name corresponds to that of the trading account).

Do I have to do anything in terms of trading?
Absolutely not. That is the whole point of this service. We will be doing all the trading and management of the account. All you have to do is provide the brokerage firm with a LPOA to consent to having your trading activity managed by us, and therefore we will log into your trading account to manage that. As mentioned above, this does not mean we could take your funds. The explanation was mentioned above in the previous FAQ section.

How does this make sense for you?
We will charge a profit split at the end of each month (See the Services page for details and breakdown).

For example, if you have a $200,000 account and we managed to make 5% that month, then the profit generated is $10,000. For accounts larger than $100,000, the profit split is only 20%, therefore we will require a $2,000 share of those profits before we move onto the next month. (For accounts under $100,000 the profit split will be 30%)
The profit split will only be paid out to us if we are in a 'net' positive. For example, if we started trading on a $200,000 account and generated $10,000 in profits for the first month, that would make the balance of the account $210,000 and our share would be 20% of the profit which is $2,000. You can choose to withdraw or re-invest your own profits, however our share will always have to be paid out at the end of the month to continue onto the next cycle.

If on the second month we happen to lose $5,000 then no profit share will be given out that month, and we would have to recover that loss before counting the next profit split. For example, if on the third month we only made $3,000 then no profit split will be paid, because we are still behind by $2,000. In this case, if on the subsequent month we made another $4,000 then the "net" profit at this point would be $2,000 (calculated by subtracting the previous outstanding loss of $5,000 from the sum of the new profits of $4,000 and $3,000). Therefore our profit split that month would be 20% of $2,000 which is $400.

Why is there a minimum of $100,000?

We want to make it worthwhile for both parties. We trade stable conventional markets and strive to make reasonable yet ambitious targets. Our goal is to make a 5% average monthly return which may not seem like a lot but is actually quite challenging and impressive to do consistently, especially while maintaining a 20% loss limit.
However, this 5% projected return is not going to be valuable on smaller accounts of, say $5,000 or so.. That would be $250, and considering we are also only taking 20-30% of the profits.. it is not worth the time and effort for $75..

We are not making 5000% returns as one might hear about in crypto for instance and invest a $1,000 to make $50,000 - that is simply not sustainable or consistent. Trading is not meant to be that way.

Therefore, we believe $100,000 is the minimum to try and generate a decent outcome for everyone.

There can be exceptions on a case-by-case basis, if you are able to bring in, say, 2 or more separate smaller accounts at once (e.g. you and a friend). But we rather keep a focus on quality over quantity.

 

Why need capital instead of trading by yourself if you have a good strategy?

This is indirectly the same answer to the previous question.

It might be a valid question however we must keep in mind that business is all about growth potential and volume.

With the rise of globalization over the past decades, we have seen the world GDP grow exponentially, as technology and innovation keeps improving, etc. That wouldn't have been possible if we were still operating on a barter payment system whereby Person A gives Person B five tomatoes in exchange for a loaf of bread, and growing our own food in our backyard. On the contrary, it was only possible due to the fact that borders opened up to trade with one another, lowering costs, improving efficiency, having greater access to leverage, loans, investments, funding etc. to put together for greater use. This is why companies like Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Google, and Tesla (to name a few) go public. They all have great ideas, strategies, and teams but they need resources to make the most out of it, because money cannot simply come out of thin air or grow on trees. An electric car cannot be built simply with an idea in one's mind, no matter how talented they are or how great their idea is. It will require funding and resources (a lot of it) to gather the right teams, in the right buildings, to buy the right equipment that ultimately creates the end product.

In the same way with trading, having a good strategy does not mean we can defy the laws of statistics and turn a few thousand or even $100,000 into a massive empire and/or career. We will incur losses in trading, it's inevitable. As we are striving for more realistic, steady and sustainable returns, we will need a larger amount of capital to compensate for that and make it all work smoother. If we (or any publicly traded company like Tesla) were to opt out of external funding sources and only rely on our own, we would need 100X the amount of capital to sustain that, which is not realistic.

In the same way, hedge funds that manage billions of dollars allocate a 1-2% of that amount as a "fee" to the team, whether the fund ends up in a positive or negative outcome at the end of the year. This is to pay the staff for their expenses and other costs to make the whole equation run in the first place. We do not charge any such fees, but we try to get around it in other realistic and mutually beneficial ways. We expect people to understand by using logic.

It wouldn't make sense for anyone to solely trade even $100,000 of their own money because 5% of that is not even sufficient to live in most cities around the world. It doesn't mean they don't have the skill for it, it's just that he opportunity cost is too high and one might be better off doing something else with their time. Considering global stats, 99% of the developed world population do not even have $10,000 saved up for an emergency, let alone $100,000 to trade and take risks with. This is just to reflect on to avoid judging traders and the industry in general.

In our opinion, a trader would need mid-high 6 figures to generate a decent income with moderate risk, and that in turn is not even comparable to having a volume of smaller sized accounts from multiple clients and getting commission on profits. For example, generating an average of 5% per month on a $500,000 personal account is $25,000 while generating 5% on just 20 $100,000 accounts would be $100,000, without investing any money and simply using one's hard earned skills and networking. It is also easier to find and access several people with $100,000 to invest rather than one with $2,000,000.

What products will you be trading and how?

We only trade in the futures market, particularly indices. One can think of it as a basket of publicly traded companies grouped into an "index". An example of such indices are the S&P500, The Nasdaq and Dow Jones. 

These products trade on a centralized exchange and therefore everything is transparent and regulated.

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We use a variety of complex "high frequency" strategies whereby we try to take advantage of short term price movements. We believe this is advantageous for us because we do not concern ourselves with what happens later on, whether the market rallies to infinity or drops to 0, we would've already been out of the trade and done by the end of each trading session. It doesn't mean we are always ending the day in a profit.. but we don't have to stress about what the market could be doing in the middle of the night (or day) while we're holding onto a trade at the mercy of some macroeconomic event.

What if I change my mind after joining, can I leave?

Absolutely, as we mentioned above, the account is always in your name and control.

In addition to that, the funds will also be liquid at the end of each trading session. We don't hold trades overnight.
We are trading, not investing, so that means we take short term positions and have the funds fully liquid by the end of each day. If you choose to leave at any time, whether it's because you need the funds or simply aren't satisfied with our services, it's none of our business - all we require is for you to send us any outstanding profit splits, even if the end of the month hasn't come.
Nothing more than that, no penalties, no other fees.
 

What is meant by the loss limit?

We strive to maintain an overall loss limit of 20% from your initial balance. (Can be changed on request/preference)
For example, if you deposit $100,000 then we will try to maintain a $20,000 overall loss limit. This means in case things did not turn out too well and we incurred some losses, you'd still be able to withdraw your remaining ~$80,000. However, you must be aware that it is possible to lose more than that in the case of "black swan" events. What is meant by that is if a major global event occurs (a sudden world war or completely unforeseen event, etc.); that can lead to the market moving drastically and facing slippage against orders, so our planned risks and losses in that moment might suddenly be larger than anticipated due to "slippage" whereby the market is facing an abnormal amount of volatility and illiquidity where we do not have our transactions filled at the desired prices. Thus losses could be bigger. 

We simply state this to be aware of "worst case scenarios" and not hold us liable because there is obviously risk when it comes to trading and investing. However, such events are not the norm and happen in extreme cases.

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Is trading gambling?

It's all about one's perception and approach. Trading is all about probabilities, there are both institutional and retail traders who have made it their career and it certainly cannot be anything close to 'gambling' if one is able to have an edge and consistently replicating a result, because when one takes calculated risks with a positive expected value, it is bound to be profitable in the long run. That is simply a matter of statistics.

These statements really bother us and undermine every skilled trader's career and experience. Let us explain it in detail because it might be a valid question on the outer surface if one doesn't know what trading entails in the first place.

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The word "gambling" generally pertains to games offered in a casino or gambling institution whereby the odds are stacked in the house's favour. This means that the player has a negative expected value; therefore if they keep playing in the long run they will lose because of that small edge which the house has over them. This is how a gambling institution operates. It's not about winning all the time, nor is it about having a huge edge, a simple 3% edge means that over the long run, for every $100,000 in bets placed, they are generating $3,000 in profits. Consider the scale of Vegas or Macau where there are hundreds of millions of dollars flowing every week.. Those small percentages add up to millions in profits. In trading, we can operate like the "house", by knowing what to look for and having the experience of course.

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Let us go back to the casino analogy. Consider a game of roulette (American double-zero version).

There are 38 slots with 18 black numbers, 18 numbers, one slot of 0 and another slot of 00.

If one were to consider betting on red or black, even though they get an equivalent payout if they win, their probability of winning is 18/38 which is 47%. It is not 50% as opposed to a coin flip for example, this is because the 0 and 00 deduct 1/38 each, meaning 2/38 = 5.26% edge in the house's favour, while a negative expected value of -3% against the player. If it were a coin flip with only 2 outcomes (50% chance of winning). That makes it neutral with no edge in neither the house nor the player's favour.

 

With the explanation above, this means that over the long run, the house has a 5% edge on this game alone (while the player has -3%). So on average, for every $100,000 in bets the player is likely to lose $3,000 while the house is expected to generate $5,000. This is not going to be reflective over 3 bets or even a day perhaps, but when looking at the long term it is absolutely the case and that is why there are new hotels being built every week in those cities. There might be days when players come in and win jackpots and large sums of money, but that would be compensated by the other players who are losing, or maybe even that same player later that evening or by the end of the week if they kept playing. This is another reason why such establishments require a significant amount of capital to set up, in order to be able to pay such winners, knowing they will make it back and more in the long run because of their edge. If one were to open such an establishment (or even any business like a restaurant) while being undercapitalized, they might go out of business just due to the fact that they're overexposed financially, it has nothing to do with the industry or business.

The house also places "limits" on bets. For example, when playing roulette on a smaller table, a bet on black/red might have a $25 minimum and $1,000 maximum. This limits the fluctuations and losses that the house faces because one wouldn't be able to increase their bet sizes infinitely until they win. By combining the negative expected value for the player along with these table limits, it works out in the house's favour.

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This is just an analogy and explanation to show how trading is not "gambling". When it comes to trading, we are to an extent operating like the "house". We mean this in a statistical sense and not in a technical sense. We do not have a blindfold on and guess whether price goes up or down and then place a trade or follow our hopes and gut; on the contrary, we use certain complex strategies to be able to determine when the market offers us an "edge" and then taking those trades. By having this edge we are able to win in the long run, the same way the house does. Again, the statistical component is the same, however the technical component is very different. We also have to ensure we have the right "inputs" such as having sufficient capital (funding), having the appropriate amount of risk on each trade (similar to the bet "limits" in the analogy of the house), etc. - these factors serve the trader in the long run. If one has an edge (positive expected value) and trades consistently over the long run with enough capital, it is statistically a profitable equation.

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In conclusion, gambling is something that pertains to luck and momentarily wins. One cannot possibly get lucky time and time again consistently, unless they have some sort of edge. Visit our Instagram page to see some of our stats which shows hundreds of trades, as well as the profit factors, win/loss ratios, etc.

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Is trading a 'scam' or too good to be true?

We always hear about trading being an industry with a lot of 'scams'. Unfortunately that is the case with almost any industry, particularly when money is involved. There will always be 'bad apples' who try to make a quick profit at the expense of others' suffering and perhaps tarnish the reputation of a whole industry. With trading being a more complex topic, it is probably easier to get lured into such scams. Your job is to do your due diligence and know who you're dealing with, assess your risk tolerance, while also being aware that there is always some element of uncertainty in terms of pursuing 'calculated risks'. If calculated risks don't go as one would like or plan, that is not a scam but simply the cost of doing business. Anyone who views it otherwise simply has an irrational and unrealistic perspective.

It is as though one were to decide to become a professional boxer, risk being severely injured (while inflicting the same effect on others) in hopes of becoming a world champion and amassing fame and fortune, but then walking into the ring and throwing a tantrum if the referee or judges give the victory to the other opponent after the fight and agreement. That is not an attribute of any successful athlete, businessman or person. On the contrary we always see displays of sportsmanship on such high levels which is how one is able to succeed at anything.

From our side, we try to mitigate all the negative emotions people might have. This is why we don't require or handle any deposits, we try to manage risk by aiming for a specific loss threshold, aim for reasonable (yet ambitious) investment returns and try to keep everything transparent etc.

Of course, there is risk with trading (Read Terms & Disclaimers) and that does not mean it's a "scam" if it doesn't always go the projected way. One cannot make money without risk. It is not a savings account nor a guaranteed investment, nothing in life works that way and we expect our clients to be savvy enough to understand business.

We do not wish to deal with any clients who are immature and think irrationally or have unrealistic expectations.. Nobody is going to take your money and run off, it's already been discussed and explained several times above, but we do not control the market so if we happen to have a bad trading period or reach our loss limit then that is a part of the process.. We simply state this for 'worst case' scenarios. Business and trading should be done rationally, with money one can afford to risk, while utilizing their skills to take calculated risks, striving to achieve a profit. It's all a matter of statistics and probabilities. We stress on having the right clientele because we want to maintain a smooth process and journey which will help us perform better and achieve our mutually beneficial targets.

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Feel free to Contact Us if you have any other questions. We look forward to welcoming you and working together.

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